This was the stark realisation that we both experienced in 2017. We were both being coached. For the first time in years we were having very different conversations. Conversations about ourselves. About what we wanted from life. About what mattered. About what felt aligned (and what didn’t).

After hugely enjoyable careers in school leadership, we came to realise that it was time for something different.

Coaching gave us permission to dream. The courage to act. It was powerful stuff.

“Imagine if we brought this into schools,” we thought.

It would make stuff better. And so MSB was born. Born in coaching conversations.

We’ve been creating conversations that matter with hundreds of school leaders around the world ever since. And we don’t just talk the talk. Coaching has led to some remarkable changes in our personal lives.

Gill has relocated to her beloved West Yorkshire and Matt moved with his young family to the Scottish Highlands (during a pandemic). Today we continue to grow the business from these regenerative spaces.

We couldn’t have done this without coaching.

We are committed to creating courageous and compassionate conversations around the world. And we love what we do.